@Credo -Sorry Credo, but I would never accept a heretic like Pope Francis as legit. You have no idea how much he is hated in Italy and around the world by true and faithful Catholics. The Catholics who bow and say "Yes Holy Father, No Holy Father, Whatever you say is right, Holy Father Francis..." are not true Catholics, but instead brainwashed idiots belonging to "the cult of the Pope....whatever he says goes" type of B.S. On the other hand, faithful Catholics like Cardinal Pell, and now Cardinal Muller and others, have the courage to declare Francis wrong, and his pontificate a catastrophe. More and more are calling for him to stand down....resign, quit.

I WILL bow down and say "Yes Holy Father" when he speaks as one with the Church. I MAY say "No, Holy Father" when he does not speak as one with the Church. That is my station. To declare the seat of Peter vacant is acting above my station; it is to set myself above the authority of the Church. That is unlawful for me to do. Now Bishop Williamson plays it all ways depending on his audience. To my mind he uses the crisis to wind people up against the papacy and then steps back as they march off the cliff; the whole Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer episode comes to mind. Bishop Williamson answers to no one. Fr. Giacoma Ballini answers to no one. Whether they openly admit to it or not, they are "sedevacantists" in spirit. Credo is right in the sense of the matter.

This is ridiculous. Williamson is right. Would you rather he obey a despot heretic like Francis? More bishops around the world need to rebel against Francis and his "Synodal" church he is trying to create, filled with LGBTQ supporters and the WOKE agenda. God bless Bishop Williamson, and all others like him, sedevacantist groups, and the SSPX.
Down with Bergoglio, and all his homo appointees and supporters.

And consecrating so-called bishops IN TOTAL SECRET is not ridiculous? What do you actually know about this Italian priest? Do you know his background? Do you know his past history? Do you know why he was dismissed from his position within the SSPX? Or why he was inially being transferred to Scotland before he attempted to highjack the SSPX chapel in Cork? "No regard for authority" - regardless of how legitimate - sums up Bishop Williamson and his protege Fr. Ballini perfectly. It's simply the flipside of the same "non serviam" Vatican II coin under the guise of "tradition".

I'm only 28, but I RESENT not being able to have the same Catholic Faith my grandparents got growing up in Japan, and when they were young parents here in the USA their children at least got a few good years of Catholic education. I had to teach myself the Catholic Faith, because the Catholic Faith I was taught was Vatican II B.S. which means nothing. I stopped going to Mass at all because of the pervert Jesuit and Augustinian priests(one each) at my highschool who made passes at me when I was a senior because I was bigger (not fat) than most guys in class and because I was on the football, basketball and swim teams. I taught myself the Latin Mass reading old family missals. Benedict XVI and the way he presented himself as Pope and his priorities brought me back to Church.....I was proud of our Pope then. (2012)--but in comes Bergoglio, and especially the last 2 1/2 years of him, and I want nothing to do with the "established" Catholic Church. I have no respect for him, or any of his bishops/cardinals...except for afew.....the late, great Cardinal Pell, Cardinals Burke,Erdo,Muller, Eijk, and 4-5 others.
So whatever Bishop Williamson tries to to, or the SSPX, CMRI, ICRSP, or dozens of other traditionalist or sedevacantist groups want to do to preserve the Faith is fine with me. Bergoglio is illegit, so are all his homosexual advisors and appointees.
Benedict XVI himself once siad that the Church may be reduced to small pockets of the Faithful.....these groups are what he meant....NOT the "Synodal Church" of Pope Francis, or that of Vatican II.

So Mr. Yoshimori, you believe that the true Church can be spread by rebellious wanna be bishops who use subversive methods to undermine their own fraternity and turn the faithful against each other? Open your eyes - that is the same spirit that ushered in Vatican II. And as for being legitimate - a "consecration" done under the cloak of darkness is not legit. How do you know it was actually done? How do you know it was done according to the precepts mandated by the Church? How do you know that this priest is a true son of the Church? Moreover once you seperate, in your own mind, "the Faith" from the established Church, you have effectively taken a step away from the Faith; you hold a "faith" outside the Church which is exactly where Bishop Williamson and Fr. Ballini have placed themselves judging by their attitude. Regardless of what Pope Francis personally does, we ourselves must stand firm with the Church. If the Holy Father wants to leave it, that's his choice. But we stand firm and that means doing and supporting the Church precepts and laws as far as we are able. Bishop Williamson did not have to secretely "make a bishop" from an inexperienced priest who has kept it secret for the last two years. Such conduct is wrong in anyone's books.

@Carol H -" Regardless of what Pope Francis personally does, we ourselves must stand firm with the Church. If the Holy Father wants to leave it, that's his choice. But we stand firm and that means doing and supporting the Church precepts and laws as far as we are able. "
I understand what you are saying, and somewhat agree, but, if by "stand firm with the Church"- you mean go along with Pope Francis and his push to create an entirely new "Synodal Catholic Church", then NO THANKYOU! In that regard, the SSPX and any/all sedevacantist Catholic groups are right in preserving the faith, and HE is a heretic and wrong. I will always stand with the Catholic Faith, as it has been taught for 1,700+ years, and with the Roman Rite Mass, but NOT with the "deforms of Vatican II which have destroyed the Church, or with a Pope who is a heretic and homo lover just because he happens to be the Pope at the moment. Lastly, no one is less deserving of the title of Holy Father than is Pope Francis/aka Jorge Mario Bergoglio.

Agreed Mr. Yoshimori - the Church is not the "Synodal Catholic Church" as you term it; it is the rock that has stood firm for 2,000 years. And that is my point: that rock is a hierarchical institution governed by its own laws. It begins with the "Holy Father" which is an official term regardless of whether the actual man is deserving of it or not. You, as an individual, have no authority to rule whether he is deserving or not; Pope Frances is entitled to that term until a council or future Pope rules otherwise. That is the law. That is the precepts of the Church. If we allow our personal prejudices to rule our heads, we set ourselves against the very institution - the very laws - that we claim to be faithful to. Rebelling against rebellion by breaking Church laws - without a state of absolute necessity and wise deliberation - is merely joining the rebellion. It is taking the law into one's own hands and encouraging others to do the same. This is exactly what Bishop Williamson has done and with an inexperienced newbie priest who was dismissed from the SSPX for subversive conduct: attempting to highjack the Cork chapel and turning the faithful against each other. . I know this priest and was witness to much of the events surrounding this drama. The fact that he has kept this so-claimed "consecration" secret from the public for two years is indicative of this subversive mind set and that worries me immensely.

@Carol H -" You, as an individual, have no authority to rule whether he is deserving or not; Pope Frances is entitled to that term until a council or future Pope rules otherwise." This was your quote regarding the term "Holy Father" You can call him that if you like. However, for me and I know millions of other traditional Catholics, to call Bergoglio "Holy Father" would cause many to feel violently sick.... not to mention hypocritical because we he is anything but "holy."
Because he's run out of "younger" Bergoglian enthusiasts, he just appointed a nearly 80 yr. old heretic Pachamama devotee to be Archbishop of Caracas, Venezuela. The guy's already a cardinal., and he worshiped Pachamama in St.Peter's Basilica just like Bergoglio did 3 years ago during the "Amazon Synod". But now There goes that diocese down the tubes, same as all others with Francis appointees...even my own of Philadelphia.
I indeed stand with the Catholic Church (of all time). If Bergoglio succeeds in attempting to create a new Vatican II "Synodal Church", I'll stick with the SSPX, the CMRI, Bishop Williamson, and any other sedevacantist group rather than lose my soul following a heretic Pope building a heretical "synodal church". The decreasing number of braindead Catholics who still cheer Bergoglio as their "Holy Father" can do so if they wish, but I won't.

"I indeed stand with the Catholic Church (of all time)" - "I'll stick with ...Bishop Williamson, and any other sedevacantist group...". The glaring contradiction of your two statements belongs in the Guiness Book of Records. As for "braindead Catholics who still cheer Bergoglia as their 'Holy Father'", what would you call Catholics who champion a subversive, homo defending bishop as their saviour? Tread carefully Mr. Yoshimori; sometimes we are so focused on what we are backing away from, we neglect to see what we are backing into. Think with your head and weigh up which group follows the laws and precepts of the Church as far as they can. Hidden in the dark "consecrations" of inexperienced, renegade priests does not qualify.