Formal public heretics – who openly and guiltily refuse submission to the rule of faith proposed by the magisterium Material public heretics – who openly but innocently refuse submission to the rule of faith proposed by the magisterium Formal occult heretics – who secretly (but guiltily) refuse submission to the rule of faith proposed by the magisterium Material occult heretics – who secretly and …More
Formal public heretics – who openly and guiltily refuse submission to the rule of faith proposed by the magisterium Material public heretics – who openly but innocently refuse submission to the rule of faith proposed by the magisterium Formal occult heretics – who secretly (but guiltily) refuse submission to the rule of faith proposed by the magisterium Material occult heretics – who secretly and innocently refuse submission to the rule of faith proposed by the magisterium. Public heretics, whether formal or material, do not belong to the body of the Church.
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@occasnltrvlr It is because a member of the Church must believe in all that the Church teaches. A “public material heretic” can only remain a material heretic until he has been corrected. Once he is corrected, he either becomes an orthodox member of the faithful, or becomes a formal heretic. The Church has to protect the faithful from heresy, and so, all who hold heretical positions have to be …More
@occasnltrvlr It is because a member of the Church must believe in all that the Church teaches. A “public material heretic” can only remain a material heretic until he has been corrected. Once he is corrected, he either becomes an orthodox member of the faithful, or becomes a formal heretic. The Church has to protect the faithful from heresy, and so, all who hold heretical positions have to be publicly considered as being outside of the Church, regardless of the subjective state of their souls. Every bishop who refuses To enforce canon 915 denies this.
So...a material heretic does not belong to the body of the Church, even though they innocently refuse submission to the rule of faith? Does not compute.More
So...a material heretic does not belong to the body of the Church, even though they innocently refuse submission to the rule of faith?
So why was the so called St Gallen mafia allowed to function in the church? The Novus odor mass was was configured by a freemason and with the over site of protestants. If you kick out all the heretics there be nobody left. Would St Pius X call JPII a heretic The two were so different in their beliefs both couldn't be right. You imagine St Pius X at the Assisi prayer gathering or any pope before …More
So why was the so called St Gallen mafia allowed to function in the church? The Novus odor mass was was configured by a freemason and with the over site of protestants. If you kick out all the heretics there be nobody left. Would St Pius X call JPII a heretic The two were so different in their beliefs both couldn't be right. You imagine St Pius X at the Assisi prayer gathering or any pope before 1958.
The two were so different in their beliefs both couldn't be right. You imagine St Pius X at the Assisi prayer gathering or any pope before …More